Episode 10

AI avatars & authenticity: Redefining trust in B2B marketing

In this thought-provoking episode of the Trust and Influence Podcast, host Joel Harrison speaks with Steve Mudd, CEO of Talentless AI, about the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on B2B thought leadership and marketing.

Who is Steve Mudd?

With a colorful career spanning roles as Marketing Director at NetApp and positions at Ogilvy & Mather, Mudd has emerged as a prominent voice in the AI marketing space. His company name "Talentless AI" encapsulates his philosophy: "You don't have to be talented to use AI. You don't have to have any particular skill. It kind of allows you to level up in a number of ways."

Key Insights

The Information Architecture Revolution

Mudd argues that AI is fundamentally dismantling traditional information hierarchies: "Every website out there is crap compared to the information that I can get out of GPT right now." This forces marketers to reconsider where and how they provide value when AI can synthesize information more efficiently than traditional content platforms.

The Rise of "Thought Farming"

One of the most concerning trends Mudd identifies is what he calls "thought farming" – the industrial-scale production of AI-generated content that mimics thought leadership but exists primarily to drive engagement. This proliferation of content is diluting platform value and driving audiences away from traditional information sources like LinkedIn.

From Corporate Voice to Personal Connection

The most effective thought leadership is shifting from corporate publications to individual voices who consistently contribute to ongoing conversations. Mudd surprisingly identifies TikTok as his primary source for thought leadership content, noting figures like Scott Galloway and Rory Sutherland who leverage the platform's format for personal connection.

The Uncanny Valley of AI Avatars

As someone who regularly experiments with AI avatars, Mudd offers fascinating insights into how synthetic media is blurring the lines between human and artificial communication. He describes creating videos so convincing that "people can't tell" they're AI-generated, while emphasizing that transparency remains crucial for maintaining trust.

The New Skills for Marketing Success

"It's the rise of the English major," Mudd suggests when discussing the skills future marketers will need. Success in an AI-augmented world requires two critical capabilities: "First, the ability to communicate with language... Second, understanding if the output is good or not – that discernment of quality."

Looking Ahead

While acknowledging legitimate concerns about AI's impact on trust, Mudd maintains a fundamentally optimistic outlook. He views AI not as a threat to marketing jobs but as a creative opportunity to transcend limitations and explore new forms of communication.

His warning to B2B organizations is clear: "There will be a lot of companies who use AI as an excuse to do what they've always done, which is downsize every so often or cut budgets. But the reality is, if you don't lean in, it's just a matter of time before you're disrupted."

In an era where anyone can generate content at scale, the competitive advantage comes not from quantity but from quality, authenticity, and the ability to genuinely move conversations forward. That's the true challenge and opportunity of thought leadership in the AI era.

Listen to the full episode to discover how kittens, digital twins, and the future of B2B marketing intersect in ways you never imagined.

About the Podcast

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Trust & Influence in B2B
Expert and indepth insights from the key battleground in B2B Marketing: Trust. With a particular focus on thought leadership, influencer marketing and advocacy.

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